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But he was always active behind the scenes, helping Kabila with the political and financial management of the government. Katumba elicited bile from his critics and admiration from many around him. He was the mastermind behind crucial financial deals, including most of the big mining deals concluded in the past decade. He was also very close to Dan Gertler, the Israeli businessman who has become increasingly prominent in Congolese business circles.
The qualities that endeared him to Kabila were his extreme loyalty, as well as his efficiency in getting things done. Now that he is gone, there is bound to be a struggle over power in the inner circle, a struggle that will be all the fiercer given the tumultuous elections and the ongoing negotiations katumba mwanke biography of michaels the formation of a new government.
Over the past five years, Katumba had become increasingly incontournable as, one by one, other advisors fell by the wayside — Mwenze Kongolo sidelined inSamba Kaputo died inVital Kamerhe dissented inHenri Mova appointed ambassador to BelgiumKikaya bin Karubi appointed ambassador to the UKand so on. With Katumba gone, the various luminaries who had emerged with his help will vie for influence, including Evariste Boshab the outgoing head of the national assembly and Adolphe Lumanu minister of interior.
You are sick you some African. Every body who is working in Government is believed to be a thief. It is scary to become a President or minister in Africa. Katumba had left a lot in South Africa, spent very little time with his family. Worked very hard to the top to serve his country. He will be remembered by many for serving his country.
Died serving! Give us a break! Go and try and you will see. Tell this crony to shut up and find some hobby En tout cas, les dictateurs ont leurs pleureurs. The choice of words tells it all about a person. Some people are not fit for a public exchange forum. I regret to say that you might be one of them. More civility is expected from all throughout ours dicussions no matter how heated they might be.
Un de ces parvenus Show me which President who does not have an advisor. He was an advisor, not a decider. Actually the President was his puppet. Everybody know it even you. The president professes it. He never talk in any, yes I say it and I know it any meeting. He "listens" and he is not the one who will give you the answer, you will end up seeing the mega adviser to pay the "sehemu" What are you talking about.
Worse system ever. Only the Dictators decide without consultation. It means a President does not decide like a King. Apparently the adviser missed to advise to restore the airport that has been in project sincehas caused thousand of fatal accidents and deaths since the adviser and his chief are in power. Or maybe a jet that does not belong to the killing flying junk serving the common of the population as air transportation would brave the lack of that airport runway.
There are contrasting examples in Africa of female powers behind the throne, says Richard Dowden of the Royal African Society. Up until then she was the one that restrained him. That is the perception, at least. But Grace is not thought to have had political influence, unlike Simone Gbagbo, wife of deposed Ivory Coast leader Laurent Gbagbo, who is awaiting trial at the International Criminal Court on four charges of crimes against humanity.
If this was not about death of a human being, some of us would have been entertained by the circular firing quad nature of this article made of unsubstantiated rumors and innuendo exaggerations and outright inaccuracies on a respectable personality who just left us. May your soul rest in peace Katumba!
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Remember that one day you too will have to answer to his call and leave it all on earth, why sell your soul for it? Now Katumba is gone leaving behind power, wealth and influence,you name it, what will he really take along with him? May the peace of our God be with you all my people. What is the process to count the country among this man heirs?
He has been looting this country for many years. Getting huge commissions on contracts that is still enslaving kids in Kivu, even before his death. What on earth these 8 mafiozzi went to do in Idjwi if it is not making 8 year old little boys digging coltan? There is not a government in Congo just a bunch of looters. So, the country should think of seize his property and organize schools, hospitals, pay military and teachers, we are talking of billion here.
Tough talk! Shooting in the air. In the end you do not know what you are talking about. Still, seize property has to be the next lobbing process. Cox de London. Cronyism is partiality to long-standing friends, especially by appointing them to positions of authority, regardless of their qualifications. Hence, cronyism is contrary in practice and principle to meritocracy.
Cronyism exists when the appointer and the beneficiary are in social contact; often, the appointer is inadequate to hold his or her own job or position of authority, and for this reason the appointer appoints individuals who will not try to weaken him or her, or express views contrary to those of the appointer. Politically, "cronyism" is derogatorily used.
We can all "google" and use a dictionnary. From all Intelligent Congolese all over the world, you do not have even one who knows how to say about Congo A pilot from USA, a saying from diplomat, God knows where we will end! One more saying not from USA or diplomat but from Congo "a water makes its own level" Read it five times, you will find what i mean.
Churuchuru Goma. Graet, churuchuru, couldn't say it better, also applause for anonymous from feb. A very good summarize of truth. But you are surely far away from those intentions. All that The same to Bruno. There is no link from this accident to "tshishi for president" and tshishi is nothing else than a chatterbox. And I say that the power has to come from the eastern Congo, because all the wealthy comes from there and the people in the east have to carry the burden of war and slavery for this.
If the People in Kin like to have their own president, they should severe from the east an do their own business. I think, the east doesn't need kinshasa. Well well well, let's keep tshisekedi out of this; some said Then one went on and worship the man tshikas in not less than a few paragraphs Now I say, yes let leave tshitshi out of this, but not before I post the following comment Come on the guy says he is the president of the DRC how can we not not invite him in everything involving Congo?
I simply can't help it I mean, as if the man tshitshi will have to be remembered in terms of how happy he is with his "grand children" and not being in jail alone on top of his 79 or 80 years of age! Are they bad simply because they do not worship tshisekedi or consume tshisekedi's inexhaustive blunders? In all fairness it looks to me that Easterners have achieved more in terms of organising their regions, than many other Congolese.
And it is only fair to admit that the war is not their making but a situation provoked by a combination of many factors that are beyond the control of easterners. I say this because I can see more katumba mwanke biographies of michaels, plantation fields cattle etc By the way I heard from sources close to Limete that tshitshi has ordered for Eugenie tshisekedi his younger sister who is now an elected MP and went to the opening ceremony, tshitshi I wasaying, ordered she be arrested and brought to him with her hands well tied up with ropes.
Chuchuru, Rich Mine will be shorter. You were being shown the moon, you're looking at the finger. Chuchuru of Goma I would like to remind you that it is Bismark ark not Bismarck arcktwo different entities, pay attention. No where in my post do I claim to emulate the Chancellor. So I am puzzled by the comparison. Chancellor Otto Von Bismarck was certainly a great man in the history of Germany but what is the pertinence to my post, how does this fact relate to what I said in my post, where is the relevance.
I was expecting you to address these points and not to talk about Chancellor Otto von Bismarck. You are entitled to hate, abhor ET as much as you want if that is your cup of tea but the reality for the Congolese people in the East is well summarized in the post of a person who claims to be from the East like you check Anonymous from Feb. This is the reality in the North East, our neighbor to the east controls the whole area and the country is under occupation the moon but you choose to spend your time hating ET the finger which you are entitled to.
By the way is the population in the East enjoying any of the wealth that you are talking about? Be smart about what you write. The DRC citizens today, need to be together more than never before, this is what will save our nation. There are many DRC citizens who strongly believe that there are factors out there pointing to the fact that our country is slipping away from us.
Try pointing your finger 3, 4, 5 times at the moon on a nice full moon night may be you will get it and see the katumba mwanke biography of michaels
and not the finger. Look at the big picture man if you can. Bismark ark not Bismarck arck. Oh my God, may You save my country from its "intellectuals"! Bruno - Ref "You were being shown the moon, you're looking at the finger In other words, tshisekedi is indeed the light that failed to shine in his own life; no wonder why it is so difficult for the rest of us to see much beyond his two fingers the famous V sign.
By the way, it would have been fair and honest to quote Felix Wazekwa "Mokuwa Bongo" since he is the rigtful author of the short sentence you used in your last post. Look the so humble Jason did it when he quoted Koffi Olomide on top of this blog. Rich, " I can see more farms, plantation fields cattle etc Unless things drastically changed, this is how it works: " those in charge will use their fire powers to acquire wealth.
As they get wealthier, they will purchase legit businesses to diversify their income". It's never fail, it was true under Mobutu, it's true under Kabila.
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I agree with you that there is a failure from other to be as well organised. That what I point out to Bismark in some other discussions and my wondered was why the opposition didn't take their cue from successful resistance movements. I believe that in politic one has to know how to compromise and broker alliances. Power come from the people and allegiances is the result of leverages.
Rich, one more thing, you may know why a part of Kigali is called "coltancity or merci congo"? I don't think it's just because the Rwanda's regime is well organised. I know that a lot of people just see Kagame as a ruthless leader who will stop from anything to meet his goals. Beside this katumba mwanke biography of michaels, we forget that he is a Machiavellian strategist, he knows what he tried to achieve and how to achieve it.
All I can tell is that people are running from their lands because of assassinations and insecurity. Who benefits from massacres, displacements and lawlessness in the East? If they are so organized as you said, how come they cannot buy their way to be protected? Where is this Cosa Nostra? Bismark, not Bismarck Sorry, it was not Chuchuru but me, anonymus but really not chuchuru, who postet that with Bismarck!
Anonymus, not chuchuru. Blaise - You made an interesting point. Unless things drastically changed, this is how it works:" I talk from first hand experience. Before I explain a bit more let me say that when I said farms, plantation field or organised provinces, I did not mean "mafia" or wealth of the powerful etc I meant hard working Congolese and intellectuals who make their living by working to produce for their own consumption as well as supplying big consumption centers such as Kinshasa, Lumbashi, Mbuji mayi etc In this respect there are provinces that are well reknown for their productivity in terms of food and if you know the DRC and its food consumption patterns you may not need any data to confirm that; for instance, the great Kivu produces more food than the great Kasais.
In other words, you will find more farms, plantation fields etc Trust me I am not being biased here Another example, when you want to buy a goat or a mouton for meat in Kinshasa, you can go to Mariano market and get goats from Bas Congo. Now, to avoid me getting too biased, can you tell me of any food products well sold on any market in DRC that comes from, say, the two Kasais?
I am not generalising and I know some will take offense from what I am saying but you asked me a question and it is only legitimate that I explain what I meant. I also wanted to emphasise the fact that I am open and more than ready to learn from others who may know more about food products, farming and plantation field in the DRC. I have been in a train trip, Lubumbashi-Ilebo, more than four weeks in the way; Lubumbashi-Dilolo, more than two weeks in the way and I could see how trade was operating between various areas of the country and that trend has remained the same for years.
I have been in the Bakwandianga market or indeed SIMIS market in Mbuji Mayi there again it is easy to see the origins and trading patterns of some of the products in sale there As for Kigali and kagame, I was not talking about them though you may have an interesting case to make about them. Sorry I know this is all over the place but I tried my best after a very busy day to answer some of your questions.
Rich, Don't get me wrong, I was not trying to offend you or call you bias at all.
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I'm not from the kasais, I just saw a fallacy that I felt wasn't entirely correct. Like some says a text out of it's context is a pretext. The great Kivus have been traditionally farmlands even before Mobutu. Culturally, the source of wealth in the East is cattle. If you go to the Equator and want people to work, you better bring beer. The great Kasai and Katanga always as been minerals provinces, you will see more people engages in mining than farming,will you blame them?
If you look at the agricultural inputs from those latter provinces, they will have less farms because they are not used to that. Is it a good thing? Not at all. The point I'm trying to make is: is not because there is a lot of farms in the Kivus than anywhere else that necessary mean they are better organized. For me it means that those in power are on some buying spree in the Kivus to secure lands for exploitation.
From what they said, the reason Katumba was going to Idjwi was to purchase some lands not for himself. My question is again: how do you know that all those produce come from honest congolese and not from this mafia or even the FDLR? From what is reported people are fleeing the east every day. Which honest person will invest in a farm without political and military connections?
I don't said they all have one but maybe somebody in Goma can tell us what's going on there. I don't see how people will invest in insecurity unless they control that insecurity. I just join Kigali here to point out that network of exploitation supervise by Bosco. It is not just the Coltan that is smuggled out. I didn't have any doubt about Tshisekedi chances.
People has to be realistic, with poor grassroots organization and uncoordinated actions, the UDPS has no chance to get his point across. They seems not to know how to hurt their opponents. Are not involved in farming because they are in mining ,just demonstrate how little you know or understand the Grand KIVU. It was given as a joke.
Maybe you visited Nyarutarama's quarter? Because that's the place. Unless I'm mistaken, owning farms and cattle is still a sign of wealth. Am I wrong? First the province was forbidden to non Congolese. Secondly some people emigrated to Katanga. Are you guys still farming that much with the coltan's boom? He got influence in the north and maybe trying to go south.
He is just the puppet, his master control more puppets, maybe you are satisfy with the situation, that's fine with me - Kabila understand the Congo? That's funny, maybe that why we have less problems then before. My point was that we should not advance statement based on what we feel. Maybe I was guilty of that too so my apology if I offended you, I just said what I thought made more sense.
Breaking away won't solve your problems. From what I see, your problems come from your eastern neighbors not kinshasa. At least Mobutu showed us that together we can be one. We are going backward with that stupid " president from the East, pm from the west". Why did Khonde was elected? Rich, Ref: "it would have been fair and honest to quote Felix Wazekwa "Mokuwa Bongo" since he is the rigtful author of the short sentence" Did I ever claim ownership of the sentence?
You know why I indeed partially quoted Wazekwa without even mentioning his name? Out of the same decency that kept you from quoting the full sentence: I actually refused to have a word "zoba" taint my post Anyway,Rich, I doubt you're the right professor to lecture me on intellectual honesty But again, that saying of Wazekwa has a very valid point you seem not to be getting: for some serious matters, please don't focus on the trivial or the epiphenomenom, try instead to get the core substance and ponder over it.
In your reply, you completely missed the point by switching the subject to ET's legacy which according to you was only his grandchildren and him not being in jail: you were looking at the "finger". Your response: are Eastern intellectuals bad simply because they do not worship Tshisekedi? The author of this quote was pointing at the "moon".
Given the above, I could rightfully conclude you and Chuchuru were being shown the moon, you're looking at the finger"! Blaise has quite properly taken care of it. If we're to help our country move forward, let's begin by being accustomed to having discussions based on real substance is her statement true? Bruno - Ref "Did I ever claim ownership of the sentence?
I can trust what you say now but at the same time I think I had to right to highlight that since some readers who never came across the saying assumed it was yours! When you started talking about "Many Easterners intellectuals" who are late to see your "moon", you were not being "divisive" or "partisan"; now others are extending on it they become divisive and partisan!
Is that a new version of double standard? Very strange indeed! Now you say you are 'humbly' proposing people to change the topic I hope you expect your 'intellectual elite' to follow your humbly proposed idea! I find that very strange too. To finish, let me reassure you that I'm quite happy not to see your moon s since I may already be living in one a moon.
Anon February 20, AM Though I try not to get lost with some "Anononymous" messages I just wanted to say thanks for making it clear to Blaise that in many parts of our country, farming and food production have always been combined with mining. Blaise - Ref "In the Kasai, I never heard people involved in farming like that. First the province was forbidden to non Congolese Are you trying to say, "non-Congolese" are the ones who have the duty to help Kasai to focus on farming and food production?
My dad worked for a mining company and he invested most of his savings in houses, lands and small plantation fields. When he retired he kept busy with his projects building his houses, farming and working in the fields now even if he's already past away and that he did not get his pension, I can confirm that my mum never complained of not having enough food in the house and she still can provide even for the extended family in a similar way my dad used to when he was still alive.
As you can see, there is no mafia money or indeed non-Congolese involved to help my family to become self sufficient in terms of food production. I think there are many families like mine in various parts of the DRC but it is a fact that in some provinces people simply did not see the importance of food production in the same way as this was seen in other provinces.
I don't know if you read the article about the consumption of dog meat in one of the DRC regions. This is the reality in the North East: More than 10 years after the official ending of the war, can you please develop as to where you see success here? Some questions about the plane crash: Researching several articles on the plane crash and Mwanke give rise to the following questions: 1.
There is suspicion the plane crash was a choice as an assassination of Mwanke because no one can point fingers. The plane made an unusually steep descent. Why did such an experienced pilot not make a pass and attempt another landing? Was there a black box on the jet? An elder statesman, two honorable, decent United States citizens and two innocent farmers were killed in this horrible tragedy.
The pilots must have known the risk of their employment was great. The fact does not excuse suspected murder. The sanctity of human life trumps politics — The United States should not allow a shroud be placed on this tragedy. The United States and the U. If stories are true that Mwanke squirrelled monies from illicit mineral rights dealings, DR Congo needs to recupe those funds to aid in improving DR Congo airport transportation systems.
Rich, confusing? To develop a region, it's not just farming and artisanal mining that compt, you need foreign investment as well specially if your state doesn't provide the rest. I was trying to address the fact that maybe the kasai weren't expose to foreign investors in other sectors of their economy that why their farming is still artisanal.
You know there is no cat and dog in south Korea streets, is that the reason they are behind? Can someone help? I have been wondering if some of the reasons behind the fact that some regions of the DRC are more prone to agricultural activities than others are due to the following: - 1 Population density, everyone says that the North East is the most populous of the DRC even after the loss of 6 million people, my apologies for mentioning this, it is just for the sake of the argument thus the need to develop agriculture on a bigger scale to feed the masses for survival.
This entity did not correct your mistakes as you correctly stated and defended your points. Now, my question is, who is going to be the beneficiary of such an act of treason, is it the people in the East who are presently suffering under a direct and indirect occupation and domination by our neighbors to the East. Promised by who or whom?
The answer to what is stopping peoples is very simple. It is because the people in the East, if this entity does not know, are first foremost and last Congolese and nothing else. I know that civility is a must as we exchange ideas on this blog and try to learn from each other. There were no mistakes on your part. The DRC has been blessed by Nature with mineral wealth and other types of wealth everywhere.
Most of us do not katumba mwanke biography of michaels the extent of these blessings. As the consciousness, awareness of what the DRC is to Congolese grows in their mind the nation will prevail. Blaise - Ref "I was trying to address the fact that maybe the kasai weren't expose to foreign investors in other sectors of their economy that why their farming is still artisanal I simply fail to see examples to support that claim Ref "don't be ridiculous Ref "You know there is no cat and dog in south Korea streets By the way, I did not write the article but from what I read, and I must confess I'm quite convinced with the facts reported in it, the cause of this problem is well explained in paragraph 3 of the same article By the way, I would like to know how we got to a culinary interlude where dog meat consumption is a subject.
People eat horse meat; cat meat… actually people all over the world eat anything that swims, flies, crawls, jumps, walks on 2 or 4 legs…. To each is katumba mwanke biography of michaels, as long as it is good for their health. By the way, would any one care for any one for the following dishes on are menu today, "Cuisses de grenouille suspendus au plafond" or "Cerveau de veau au citron de champagne" or "Macaque a la sauce gombo fourmis", any one???
Rich, I apology, I meant the argument not you were ridiculous. I didn't read the article, I was just taking aback by the jump from farming to dog meat. I don't care what people eat or don't eat. What I'm trying to make you realize is that unless you conducted a survey of the whole country you cannot just speculate about why x does this or not.
There is small farmers everywhere! Some more than others. Did you went to every single locality in the Kasai to determine that nobody farm there? How many farmers are in the East? What is their input in the national GDP? What all those lazy and desorganized people from kasai do with their money? That was my point. It's economysmall farming or small mining have marginal impact in the economy.
It's large scale farming or mining that makes the difference. Who bring those investments? Not the local. Hence my argument about the probable history of the Kasai. AlllI know it's a little simplistic to assume that because there is no farms at x locations that means they are nbot organised. That was the fallacy I was agaisnt. I'm sincerely sorry if I offended you by any means.
That wasn't my purpose.